Friday, November 7, 2014

Oral Argument Highlights In Yates

I have a few quick thoughts on the oral argument in Yates. Recall that the issue is whether the term "tangible object" in the "anti-shredding provision" of Sarbanes-Oxley, section 1519, includes objects such as fish. Yates argues that "tangible object" must be read narrowly because it appears in sequence with the terms "record" and "document" and because the purpose of the anti-shredding provision was to ensure companies did not destroy business records in the wake of Enron/Arthur Andersen.
1. Yates's counsel appeared to concede that the nearly identical language of 18 U.S.C. 1512(c)—“record, document, or other object”—would cover his client’s conduct. (Tr. 13). In my view, that is a fairly damaging concession. It means that Yates is effectively abandoning any pretense of making a textual argument, and rests solely on the seeming oddity of prosecuting the destruction of fish under a statute that was clearly meant to address the destruction of business records. But if that were the case, why did Congress use nearly identical language in section 1519 to mean something different from section 1512?
And as the assistant SG pointed out in his argument (Tr. 41), the concession means that Congress has elsewhere passed provisions within Sarbanes-Oxley that would cover the destruction of fish, since section 1512 is a part of that act. So Yates’s argument starts to break down when you consider that he concedes that parts of Sarbanes-Oxley can apply to fish, just not this part.
2. A number of justices expressed concern that, like in the Bond case, federal prosecutors have failed to exercise their prosecutorial discretion. (Tr. 27) (Justice Scalia joking that “Is this the same guy that – that brought the prosecution in Bond last term?”); (Tr. 31) (Chief Justice Roberts discussing the inordinate leverage the government’s broad charging practices give it in plea negotiations); (Tr. 36) (Justice Breyer: “And why wouldn’t it happen? It wouldn’t happen because they’d never prosecute it, though I’ve had my doubts recently.”).
Justice Scalia went so far as to suggest that he would account for the government's overreaching prosecutorial policies by adjusting his own view of statutes:
Well, if that’s going to be the Justice Department’s position, then we’re going to have to be more careful about how extensive statutes are. I mean, if you’re saying we’re always going to prosecute the most severe, I’m going to be very careful about how severe I make statutes...Or – or how much coverage I give to severe statutes.
(Tr. 29). For a strict textualist like Scalia, that’s a pretty extreme statement. There is really no basis for the Court to read a statute narrowly just because the government has an internal policy about applying the statute whenever it is a lawful fit to the alleged conduct. The mere fact that the government isn’t generous enough with its exercise of discretion doesn’t change Congress’s intent when it passed the statute, which as Justice Scalia is usually the first to point out, is what actually matters.
Justice Kennedy also made some intriguing comments on prosecutorial discretion: “But [Yates] has no – he has no doctrinal basis to make that argument [limiting the scope of the term ‘tangible object’ to not include fish] other than to say that there is such a doctrine as prosecutorial discretion and, A, that it’s enforceable and, B, that it has some substance,  and you’ve indicated that it has neither” and “Well, it seems to me that we should just not use the concept or refer to the concept at all anymore.” (Tr. 52-53).
I find these statements very confusing. They suggest that prosecutorial discretion is something other than what it plainly is—a matter of discretion. I’m unaware of any case where the concept of prosecutorial discretion was used to read statutes narrowly.
More than anything, I think the Court is trying to send a message to DOJ that it doesn’t want to see these sorts of prosecutions going forward. DOJ might be wise to heed that message.
3. Justice Breyer appeared to think that there were some void-for-vagueness problems with the statute. (Tr. 17). Again, I have no idea why that would be. The term “tangible object” probably just refers to any object that has a physical form. Because fish have a physical form, they’re covered. What’s vague about that? (Justice Scalia made this point at the argument, Tr. 17).
But when Yates’s counsel tried to press that point in oral argument, even Justice Breyer was resistant—“Yes, but it wasn’t raised below. And these are very difficult issues and it’s sort of flying blind not to have lower court opinions and the thing fully argued out before we get to it.” (Tr. 55). So while there were a few mentions of vagueness in Yates’s brief, the Court likely won’t entertain that argument because of waiver.
 

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